1. Mr.Eyeballs

    The map is not the territory, Maureen. You misinterpret and misrepresent some salient points.

    “In a country well governed, poverty is something to be ashamed of. In a country badly governed, wealth is something to be ashamed of.”

    – Confucius

  2. Studio Matters

    Oh, dear! What to say here? We can all cherry-pick quotes from Bartleby or elsewhere. The pick-your-quote-and-prove-your-point holds no water in argument. And I am sorry that there is argument here. Particularly since I feel great affection for Mr. Eyeballs. But also because the statement is not valid simply because Confucius said it. He said a lot of things, all more meaningful within the culture and pre-modern economy of his time. In his time, to have wealth was to have taken it from someone else. What modernity– and certainly 16th century Venice– has taught us is that wealth can be created. Confucius did not know that.

    Sometimes it helps to keep in mind the gospel story of the Good Samaritan. We all know the story. What we forget is that what enabled the Samaritan to tend the needy stranger is that he had money in his pocket.

  3. Studio Matters

    Sam, much of this comes under the heading of student evaluation of teachers. Studio Matters is hardly an advocate of the Art Institute system. Nevertheless, anecdotal comments by disgruntled students—who are everywhere—is not a useful gauge of effectiveness. There are good students and poor ones. What would be helpful is an objective study of employed vs. unemployed students over several years (high-employment years vs. ones of low employment like this one), salary range, areas of study, etc.

    To put perspective on this, you can get a damned good haircut from a salon with bad reviews. Online reviews provide a way of settling scores. They are as useful to cranks as to serious commentators. Please let’s not use Yelp as a scorekeeper.

  4. Sam

    Many of the comments on Yelp are student evaluations of teachers; those are the ones to ignore. The ones to pay attention to narrate, as first-person accounts, the tactics and practices EDMC is now being prosecuted for. “OMG, I’m $100K in debt and my credits won’t transfer anywhere!” or “the recruiters called me several times a day for seven months” offer concrete examples. Regard them as informal verification that some claims against EDMC might actually be true. (Better comments, written by faculty, are found after articles on EDMC-Ai at The Chronicle of Higher Education, but there is no way to link to them directly.)

    Comparing SAIC with Ai was an aside, because you mentioned it (and I went there). The objective study you are looking for is already in the works and it is part of the legal case against EDMC-Ai.

    To your point in the newest post:

    My interest in Ai isn’t jealousy of wealth or self-righteousness. If I have a beef with advertising, it would echo Banksy.


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